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RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - Zimada - 21.02.2016 03:04
(20.02.2016 23:32)shwoaps писал(а): Table would be nice but not necessary.
@Zimada, there already is google table of compatibility. ... But you did not find it. So most of users won't find it either.
The thing is to keep everything simple, but clear.
I found this tables first of all. (first: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o2MU0cvRMiUGEnGpMO2N6fWexc43rZhMx1poHAE0Irk/pubhtml second: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jZWTrM1UQomViAnJuj_CAqn0xM8v7x29CE0-5D_Jn6I/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 ) And only after i saw both lists, i starting all my modifications on console. Actually both lists is too old for this days.
When i'm starting testing games from this lists, i saw that not all IMPORTANT INFO this lists have.
Example: MARSMATRIX (EU) - work in DS4 RC3. (right now it is work perfectly with RC4)
I downloaded GDI, optimize it, add GDI on my HDD, start console with bootloader bios, and MARSMATRIX is NOT WORK! I'm try different things ("async" options, DMA, loader addreses), but no luck.
Than i starting my console from bootloader CD with original bios and "voila!", MarsMatrix start playing from HDD without any problems.
Sturmwind (new shooter from HUCAST) works great, but with DS4 RC3 ONLY, with tricky settings for "loader memory".
"Polyko SD" (good platformer-timekiller) work for me but only with DS4 RC1...
Radirgy - work but only with NTSC JP/US region consoles
But i'm not see any infos about all this "differences" in both lists, and in this thread too...
Many games right now (like IKARUGA) works perfectly for RC4, but we steel not have "right" compatibility list, where everyone may see all settings (What kind BIOS use for this game or for this one, What kind of loading method use CDBootloader or may be IGR bootloadder.bios with hdd and new DS core, actual name of GDI image or CDI image that work ) This is what we talking about here. "The correct list" for all games that work on console with dreamshell, with all "settings" for this.
(20.02.2016 23:42)shwoaps писал(а): Q1) - Zimada, any advice's for Region MOD?
Q2) - And @Zimada, big thanks for your thorough testing results!
This thread really was lacking for those.
A1 - Region changer - http://www.dc-swat.ru/blog/hardware/1082.html and look at this link, it may be helpful: http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/sega-dreamcast-region-free-bios/
A2 - I'm trying my best. But only if i have free time...
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 21.02.2016 11:24
(20.02.2016 23:32)shwoaps писал(а): @Swat: could you share how you are testing games? What settings you change first(memory, ip.bin, fast boot, auto os, katana os, etc.).
how fast boot affect compatibility?
what memory addresses you check before you give up?
I newer knew you are using usa bios. I always thought at least you are using pal console and bios.
Is there any differences for compatibility between "usa console and usa bios" and "pal console and usa bios"?
Fast boot just disabling info on screen at loader startup (initialization, loading, executing and disc image). It's doesn't affect compatibility. But give little faster startup.
The first I check true async DMA with default address. Second I check addr 0x8c000100 and 0x8cfe8000. If doesn't boot, disable true async, if still not, disable DMA. If doesn't boot, I just test next game
Seems some games (last games) checks the region code, so in this case can help the region changer mod.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - shwoaps - 22.02.2016 21:49
Цитата:Is there any differences for compatibility between "usa console and usa bios" and "pal console and usa bios"?
>>Seems some games (last games) checks the region code, so in this case can help the region changer mod.
I just want to be clear, so there is no difference between "usa dc with usa bios", and "pal dc with usa bios"?
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 24.02.2016 08:50
The difference can be in region of DC, it's stored in flashrom memory, so the bios in this case doesn't matter. If we talked about of retail bios, without modifications.
But it's really small difference in compatibility. Currently known only one game that required some region code for booting.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - shwoaps - 25.02.2016 02:17
What game is it?
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 25.02.2016 07:49
(25.02.2016 02:17)shwoaps писал(а): What game is it?
Radirgy, it's works only with US/JAP region.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - serge85 - 02.03.2016 00:30
Hello guys, I'm testing the RC4 with Sega Rally 2, it works!!!
In the compatibility list it says ( Sega Rally 2 (us) works with DMA and CDDA).
But no music in game
, of course I play it with CDDA emulation but the music doesn't work.Am I doing something wrong? or that is the way the game works with dreamshell.
Thanks!
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 02.03.2016 16:11
Maybe I wrong, but for me music is played. But I remember some bugs, played only one track every time or something. Need test it again.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - dragoncity - 05.03.2016 18:08
Hi this is my test for PAL games
You can see in my blog for test and flash bios:
http://dragoncity17.blogspot.fr/2016/02/lire-les-jeux-dreamcast-depuis-un.html
OK = Config default
4 Wheel Thunder DMA CDA.cdi
Alone In The Dark The New Nightmare\Alone CD1 DMA f80000.cdi
Alone In The Dark The New Nightmare\Alone CD2 DMA f80000.cdi
Carrier (GDI) OK
Chicken Run OK.cdi
Chuchu Rocket CDDA.cdi
Confidential Mission OK.cdi
Carrier (GDI) OK
Dino Crisis OK 1Min.cdi
Dragonriders OK.cdi
Dynamite Cop fe0000.cdi
Evil Dead OK.cdi
Fighting Force 2 OK.cdi
Fighting Vipers 2 (GDI) OK
Giga Wing OK.cdi
GTA 2 OK.cdi
Fighting Vipers 2 (GDI) OK
Head Hunter (GDI) OK
Hydro thunder OK.cdi
Incoming OK.cdi
Jojos Bizarre Adv OK NOVGA.cdi
Marvel V Capcom Clash (GDI) OK
Marvel VS Capcom 2 (GDI) OK
MDK 2 DMA CDDA fd0000.cdi
Millennium Soldier CDDA.cdi
Mortal Kombat Gold DMA CDDA.cdi
Powerstone 2 OK.cdi
Powerstone OK.cdi
Rival Schools 2 OK.cdi
Sega Exteme Sports OK.cdi
Shadowman fe0000.cdi
Shenmue 2 900Mo\Shenmue 2 CD1 fe8000 SYNC2.cdi
Soul Reaver OK.cdi
South Park Rally OK NO ZIK.cdi
Star Wars Racer OK.cdi
Street Fighter Alpha 3 OK.cdi
Street Fighter DI OK.cdi
The House Of The Dead 2 OK.cdi
The Nomad Soul (GDI) OK
Ultimate Fighting Championship OK.cdi
Virtua Fighter 3 DMA ff4800.cdi
Virtua Tennis (GDI) OK
For me Urban chaos doesn't work in PAL or US...it's impossible because it's a WinCE game..so how he can work for you..?
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 05.03.2016 22:38
WinCE supported in RC4, but it works only from ISO or optimized GDI.
Urban chaos works for me.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - MoiGamerDuDimanche - 06.03.2016 01:00
Hi, I have a problem with Nomad Soul PAL (GDI, SDISO, and CDI). The game freeze after loading of VMU save.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - dragoncity - 06.03.2016 13:25
Hi Swat,
Can you give me the link for Urban chaos?
Because I tested 5 urban chaos different..GDI..ISO..CDI..I have a black screen...
You put the default configuration?
Thank you in advance and very good job
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - zero35 - 06.03.2016 16:30
(06.03.2016 13:25)dragoncity писал(а): Hi Swat,try optimizer GDI of use iso make pack,use dma and enable async when run wince games
Can you give me the link for Urban chaos?
Because I tested 5 urban chaos different..GDI..ISO..CDI..I have a black screen...
You put the default configuration?
Thank you in advance and very good job
do not request game images download at here
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - dragoncity - 06.03.2016 17:22
Ok no worries,I have 5 different ISO..GDI..Gdi optimized..so I think it's the setting who is not good.
In first page I see "Urban Chaos (us) work with DMA (little lags)"..but CDDA don't work.
Edit : Ok it's good with GDI Optimized ONLY..thank you for the information !!
You think I must put CDDA ? Because it work with the default config.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 07.03.2016 10:04
Urban Chaos have only one audio track, not sure for what. Some music played in game without it.
Try enable CDDA emulation. I've just learned that the 4 track is not a dummy.
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - dragoncity - 08.03.2016 00:35
MDK2 : CDI OK..but no audio sound just effect.
GDI and GDI Optimized,sound effect and audio,but problem with audio...the sound is offset time
Config : CDDA DMA and fd0000
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - dragoncity - 08.03.2016 18:26
Sega Extreme Sports
CDI >> OK but no music
GDI Optimized >> OK but no music
GDI >> OK but no music
ISO >> OK but no music
With CDDA nothing work...black screen for all !
What is the solution for have music...?
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - MoiGamerDuDimanche - 09.03.2016 01:34
Evil Twin: Cyprien's Chronicles [EUR]
CDI -> WORK with 0x8cef8000
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - SWAT - 09.03.2016 11:14
Extreme Sports works not bad with CDDA for me (tried optimized GDI).
Try use memory 0x8c004000 instead of 0x8c000100 (used with CDDA by default).
RE: Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List - dragoncity - 09.03.2016 14:37
I have already test 0x8c004000..and other..but black screen...every time...
When I put CDDA,it's change for "0x8c000100".
So i have already test to change this memory... ^^
You put just CDDA..and you don't touch anything and it's work with music...?
It's a GDI,and i have optimized with your tool "optimize_gdi.bat".
For urban chaos I don't have problem for this..but there I don't understand...
If i put CDDA..black screen...
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Now for Evil twin,it works,i took your advice
"The first I check true async DMA with default address. Second I check addr 0x8c000100 and 0x8cfe8000. If doesn't boot, disable true async, if still not, disable DMA. If doesn't boot, I just test next game"
So First,i Use now GDI optimized,I Convert with your tool
Next for this game,I usa DMA..but black screen.
Then I use DMA and 0c8c000100 and it works perfectly
Edit: Very IMPORTANT If I select the game (GDI or CDI) and after I go to the setting for put DMA and memory...it does'nt work !!! and this for all game !!
First go to setting and AFTER click on the game GDI.
It's strange but it is like that...