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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - SWAT - 20.09.2023 14:58

(20.09.2023 13:47)CrisMod писал(а):  @SWAT, to solve the error "REQdcREQCmd: 36" that I passed to you some post ago, on Tomb Raider Chronicles for SATA MOD combined with the latest Firmware 8.27 (and future firmwares) what should be done , or how can I help on that?

I don't want that I created the working debug hardware for nothing, at least on my side i can contribute to report future bugs. Because only this game it has this problem with latest Firmwares from my side, and should be somenthing to the system that it doesnt' like it; and 40 minutes of testing that was fine i believe it's not enough to say that everything goes perfect till the end...

I can’t deal with the SATA adapter until I have perfected the work of the native IDE in all games. This can cause confusion if done ahead of time.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - CrisMod - 20.09.2023 15:42

(20.09.2023 14:58)SWAT писал(а):  
(20.09.2023 13:47)CrisMod писал(а):  @SWAT, to solve the error "REQdcREQCmd: 36" that I passed to you some post ago, on Tomb Raider Chronicles for SATA MOD combined with the latest Firmware 8.27 (and future firmwares) what should be done , or how can I help on that?

I don't want that I created the working debug hardware for nothing, at least on my side i can contribute to report future bugs. Because only this game it has this problem with latest Firmwares from my side, and should be somenthing to the system that it doesnt' like it; and 40 minutes of testing that was fine i believe it's not enough to say that everything goes perfect till the end...

I can’t deal with the SATA adapter until I have perfected the work of the native IDE in all games. This can cause confusion if done ahead of time.
Completely understand and reasonable, thank you.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - fafadou - 20.09.2023 20:26

(20.09.2023 06:41)SWAT писал(а):  Long length of wires is only SATA adapter problem.

Thank you, so I'll change the CF position.

It's just in order to try the two system, I understand you focus on CF, it's logic.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - fafadou - 21.09.2023 13:34

@crismod : I can't continue my tests due to my damn reboot issue.

Do you have try super runaboot with your system ? In order to see your adapter improvement.

I can send my CF and adapter if you want to try your raspberry with this mod.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 28.09.2023 06:26

I orderd now a Compact flash ide Drive. There are some sd to Compact Flash Adapter out there, are they good?


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - SWAT - 28.09.2023 12:24

(28.09.2023 06:26)Freudi93 писал(а):  There are some sd to Compact Flash Adapter out there, are they good?

Same as SATA or worse.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - fafadou - 28.09.2023 14:13

The sd to Cf adapter works with RC4 except wince games.
Mine doesn't work with RC5.

I advise you to buy a small CF card in a first time. follow my link above to find the best price I found.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - dragoncity - 28.09.2023 19:09

Hello !

With your feedback we noticed a strange thing, I already PM you on this "Swat".

So after several tests, and several configurations, it turns out that between a VA0 and VA1 motherboard we do not have the same result on games with CDDA AND loaders:
11 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta
12 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta_dyn
13 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta_dyn_dt1

This can be checked quickly with the game "Toy Commander", by going to "options" then "sound".
With "Juke Box Mode".

If you use a CM VA1 the sound does not crash with these loaders.
On the other hand, with a CM VA0 the sound is bad...

For what ?

So... it's beyond me, I can only give this feedback, I know that there is a relationship between the loader and the motherboard, but after that I won't say any more.

I don't know if "Swat" you were able to obtain a CM VA0 in the meantime, because that would speak to you even better.

If you ever have another loader on hand etc... we'll test it! Smile


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 28.09.2023 23:23

After some testing i could say i have cracking audio in my VA0 dreamcast in Re-Volt with Last 0.8 Loader. I use an IDE to SATA Adapter. If i use the same Adapter ob a VA1 Console all is working perfekt. So ist seems to me in the VA0 dreamcasts is some Thing different than to the va1.

I will try the same setup with cf Card and Schere you the Results. If you need a Log or some Thing i can send you one Smile


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - SWAT - 29.09.2023 07:01

So, that's the news. Unfortunately, I don’t have VA0.
The current log is unlikely to help, but it would be nice if you recorded this sound. I can recognize some things by ear.
But you need to record with aux, and not use a microphone.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 29.09.2023 15:35

I made 2 Sound samples from a VA0 Dreamcast with latest Loader and latest dreamshell RC5

This is Soundsample from The ReVolt Demo:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rn5w5likpehep34/ReVoltDemo.m4a/file

This is one from the main Menu
https://www.mediafire.com/file/pvnra40cztiq8gz/ReVoltMainMenu.m4a/file

Also soundprolbems in toy commander and toy racer (same ugly sound)
also this games have the same broken sound:
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX
Vanishing Point
Vigilante 8 - 2nd Offense
Railroad Tycoon II - Gold Edition

I can make also from them sound samples if you want.

also the sound was broken in older Loaders on a VA0 console:

11 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta
12 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta_dyn
13 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta_dyn_dt1


Same setup works perfect on va1

I hope you can finde something out if you need someone for testing i can test it for you

Thank you swat - Great job Smile


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - fafadou - 02.10.2023 08:25

Oh thank you Smile

@Dragoncity : do you have try super runabout ?
With ssd and cf, in order to see a difference.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - segatxdc - 02.10.2023 17:54

I found that there are some subtle changes when using IDE hard disks and SATA hard disks. The difference is about 3 speeds in the synchronization settings and reading. It may be that the native IDE is the fastest.SATA is about 13% slower.


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 02.10.2023 20:03

Can someone Test on va0? I have two ca0 there and also dragoncity has problems with sound on va0. This is Strange


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - fafadou - 03.10.2023 02:09

VA0 are rare now...


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - SWAT - 03.10.2023 12:48

(29.09.2023 15:35)Freudi93 писал(а):  I made 2 Sound samples from a VA0 Dreamcast with latest Loader and latest dreamshell RC5

This is Soundsample from The ReVolt Demo:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rn5w5likpehep34/ReVoltDemo.m4a/file

This is one from the main Menu
https://www.mediafire.com/file/pvnra40cztiq8gz/ReVoltMainMenu.m4a/file

Also soundprolbems in toy commander and toy racer (same ugly sound)
also this games have the same broken sound:
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX
Vanishing Point
Vigilante 8 - 2nd Offense
Railroad Tycoon II - Gold Edition

I can make also from them sound samples if you want.

also the sound was broken in older Loaders on a VA0 console:

11 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta
12 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta_dyn
13 > isoldr_v0.6.10_beta_dyn_dt1


Same setup works perfect on va1

I hope you can finde something out if you need someone for testing i can test it for you

Thank you swat - Great job Smile

Thank you! I've never heard that in these games. Sounds like there are some differences in AICA between consoles. Maybe some params like frequency. Does it sound the same if you choose SQ?


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 03.10.2023 22:07

On SQ Revolt is hanging in menu..... SQ TMU2 tested


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 03.10.2023 22:28

(03.10.2023 22:07)Freudi93 писал(а):  On SQ Revolt is hanging in menu..... SQ TMU2 tested


Tested tokyo xtreme racer with the result also CDDA sound has same bug
There SQ Mode is working with same ugly sound. No difference between tmu 2 and 1. What is interesting is that the ugly sound is for a short time going but is comming again after 10 secounds


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - CrisMod - 07.10.2023 02:02

Hello SWAT, and everyone,

about "Tomb Raider Chronicles" I discovered that the problem it's the game it self, nothing related to the mods or ISOLoader version, if you are interested here `http://www.dc-swat.ru/forum/thread-4039.html`; I explained the problem as I made severals tests in these past weeks.

(02.10.2023 20:03)Freudi93 писал(а):  Can someone Test on va0? I have two ca0 there and also dragoncity has problems with sound on va0. This is Strange

I have VA0 , what would you like that i try ? ReVolt sounds?


RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5 - Freudi93 - 07.10.2023 12:02

Yes, toy Commander, toy Racer have same Problem with cdda audio. All games with cdda audio make the same Strange Problem.

You can hear the Problem in start menu in the Game ans so on.

If i Took the Drive in a other va1 dreamcast all works perfect.
Also dragoncity has the same Problem....

I also think va0 is not auch a rare console because you can find it on eBay and also many of the Special Editions are va0