Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List

[chth96]

(13.02.2021 17:41)megavolt85 писал(а):  http://www.dc-swat.ru/forum/thread-3525.html

Thank you very much for your rapid reply.

I have tested ISO Loader 0.7.x Beta of Current version and old version
by executing sakura wars3.
I enabled 0x8ce00000 memory, IP.BIN CUT in the both of Current version( ide_0.7.0_b2.7z which is Up-to-date version) and old version(ide.zip).
My dreamcast is japanese hkt-3000.
Screen was freezed when I execute it with current version
On the other hand,When I execute it with old version It is posible to play it but screen was very severely wobbled..
I have uploaded to youtube which displays test of ISO Loader 0.7.x Beta in sakura wars3




I think if there is a way to stop screen wobbling then I can play sakura wars with ISO Loader 0.7.x

[megavolt85]

test with 0.7.0 b3 http://www.dc-swat.ru/forum/thread-3525-...l#pid39490

[chth96]

its result was same with ide_0.7.0_b2..After SEGA logo displayed Screen was freezed..

[chth96]

I changed main loader to retrodream, and I tested sakura wars3 with enabling 0x8ce00000 memory, IP.BIN CUT, loader 8(old version of ISO Loader 0.7.x) but its result is not changed..
But Fortunately I found that I can normally play Virtual tennis2 PAL version with old version of ISO Loader 0.7.x(loader 8),Because Virtual tennis2 PAL version has an option to select both of 50HZ and 60HZ TV mode.
I have 60HZ TV so I select 60HZ TV mode,Then there is no more wobbling(flickering) screen.





i think It would be possible to play sakura wars3 if old version of ISO Loader 0.7.x supports 60HZ TV.

[chth96]

I tested MIZUIRO and Exodus Guilty Neos and it seems have the same symptom with sakura wars3(enabling 0x8ce00000 memory, IP.BIN CUT, loader 8).I can play these games but its screen is severely wobbling (flickering).
and I also tested Eve Zero Kanzenban - Ark of the Matter and Gunbird 2 v1.002 (2000)(Capcom)(JP) But I cannot play it No matter which options I tried...

EDIT:I can play Gunbird 2 v1.002 (2000)(Capcom)(JP) now..I think copying image files to hard drive was incomplete when I failed to play it..

[dragoncity]

You use JAP console ?

JAP console is the worse for compatibility.

Need change region for "Europe" (Blue Swirl), you can put "Europe + NTSC" for keep NTSC :

https://dragoncity17.wordpress.com/2018/...anger-1-5/

After that all should work better.

[chth96]

(14.02.2021 14:33)dragoncity писал(а):  You use JAP console ?

JAP console is the worse for compatibility.

Need change region for "Europe" (Blue Swirl), you can put "Europe + NTSC" for keep NTSC :

https://dragoncity17.wordpress.com/2018/...anger-1-5/

After that all should work better.

I have HKT-3000 japanese dreamcast.
I know your tutorial of changing region code but I'm really afraid of breaking my dreamcast during changing region code procedure like iphone jailbreak brick.
By the way,If I just simply weld at location R422 (R422 PAL Fix) then my dreamcast would be compatible with 50HZ PAL games? if not should I have to solder the 12V soldering point to R512 in order to make my dreamcast PAL version?

[megavolt85]

(14.02.2021 14:01)chth96 писал(а):  i think It would be possible to play sakura wars3 if old version of ISO Loader 0.7.x supports 60HZ TV.

your tv don't support not standart video signal (PAL60, NTSC50)
the ideal solution would be to switch to RGB or VGA

[chth96]

I connected my dreamcast with treamcast VGA box in order to display game's screen in LCD monitor and played exodus guilty neos and sakura wars3 and gun bird2 jap,kimiga nozomu eien with Retrodream.
You can check below youtube video for whole test I have done.



I can happily play exodus guilty neos and sakura wars3 ,But during I played Gunbird2 jap, I experienced slow down in a certain scene(08:45​,09:15​,09:30​,10:23​,10:48​,11:52​) and It is possible to launch kimiga nozomu eien in retrodream(loader 8,0x8CD0400) But when I select New game, it display some japanese sentence which request to insert retail GD disc in dreamcast tray(13:07).On the other hand,when I power on dreamcast inserting retail GD disc of kimiga nozomu eien,then select new game, there was no japanese sentence which request to insert retail GD disc but I can start games from scratch..I think it(kimiga nozomu eien) has copy protection which prevent from starting new game even though I use ISO loader 0.7.
EDIT:I connect dreamcast with 60hz TV and tested gunbird2 jap and Unlike connecting with treamcast VGABOX, It seems that there is no slow down in any of scene.I think that gunbird2 don't supports VGABOX.

[chth96]

I succeed to play EVE ZERO and bypass copy protection of kimiga nozomu eien.

retrodream's setting of these game is the same with Trizeal excepting for it use loader 11 instead of auto.
It is also possible to play Exodus gulity neos with this setting of Trizeal

[chth96]

I found below url which obviously show that First kiss story2 is surely works with DMA in dreamshell rc4.
http://www.dc-swat.ru/forum/printthread.php?tid=2145

At first I made use of GDI image file which was made by TOSEC.
I tested First kiss story2 GDI image file setting of loader 3,4,5,6,7 with DMA and trizeal setting of loader 11,12,13,14 as well as loader 8,9,10 with DIRECT,IP.BIN,IP.BIN CUT.
But it was totally impossible to launch this game..
I even tried to rip First kiss story2 retail GD disc which I bought more than 15 years ago.

I launched GD ripper from dreamshell and extract raw data from retail GD disc of First kiss story2 and tested this ripped image file,but it was also impossible to launch this game in both of retrodream and dreamshell...

How can I make First kiss story2 to launch successfully?
Is there anyone who have tried to play First kiss story2 in retrodream or dreamshell or
Is there any ways to modify execute files in iso file in order to launch this game?

EDIT:I really narrowly made to display logo of MPEGSofdec and ADX with setting of direct,0x8cfc0000 memory,dma on,katana os,sync true,cdda false,loader 5. But it is really impossible for me to get into game screen in order to play this game...

[chth96]

I tested kaen seibo.it works with setting of direct,0x8cfe8000,dma on,sync 16,cdda off,loader 11(trizeal setting).
And kaitou apricot works with setting of direct,0x8ce0000,loader 9.
But I still don't have any luck to play First kiss story2 yet..

[chth96]

I focused on testing japanese visual novel which is written "NO FUNCIONAN" in animekai's compatibility list
(Akihabara Dennou Gumi Pata Pies,Cardcaptor Sakura,Majo no Ochakai,Moekan,Wind - A Breath of Heart,Yuki Gatari,Shinseiki Evangelion - Ayanami Ikusei Keikaku,Marie & Elie no Atelier - Salburg no Renkinjutsushi 1-2,Shirotsumesouwa - Episode of the Clovers,Super Robot Taisen Alpha)
and It works well in retrodream.

Akihabara Dennou Gumi Pata Pies(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC 8,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)
Cardcaptor Sakura(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)
Majo no Ochakai(0x8ce00000,Loader 8,It require VGABOX for my dreamcast)
Marie & Elie no Atelier - Salburg no Renkinjutsushi 1-2(0x8cef8000,DMA on,SYNC True,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)
Moekan(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)
Princess Holiday (IP.BIN(CUT),0x8CE00000,Loader 8 Ir require VGABOX)
Shinseiki Evangelion - Ayanami Ikusei Keikaku(0x8c004000,DMA on,SYNC 8,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader auto)
Wind - A Breath of Heart(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)
Shirotsumesouwa - Episode of the Clovers(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader auto)
Yuki Gatari(0x8c000100,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA on,OS auto,Loader 2)
Super Robot Taisen Alpha(0x8ce00000,DMA off,OS WINCE,Loader 10)





EDIT:I tested more japanese dreamcast games in retrodream.

Kitahei Gold v1.007 (1999)(Net Village)(JP)(0x8ce00000,Loader 10,not support CDDA,No BGM..)It is impossible for me to play this game with CDDA support in any preset of retrodream..)

SGGG - Segagaga(v1.222,v2.00) (0x8ce00000,DMA on,SYNC 8, CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 10)
Himitsu - Yui ga Ita Natsu v1.003(0x8cff0000,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)
Tamakyuu v1.000 (2003)(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC ture,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 8 It require VGABOX)
Yoshia no Oka De Nekoronde... v1.001(0x8ce00000,DMA off, SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 10)
Konohana 2 - Todokanai Requiem v1.002 (0x8cff0000,DMA on,SYNC True,CDDA on,OS auto,Loader 11)

Tsuki wa Higashi ni Hi wa Nishi ni(0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC True,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)

Inoue Ryouko - Last Scene,
Miss Moonlight,
Pizzicato Polka,
Mei - Puru v1.003
All of above game works well in the retrodream's preset of (0x8cfe8000,DMA on,SYNC 8,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 11)

Historical Mystery adventure Troy
(IP.BIN,0X8CE00000,DMA on,SYNC 16,CDDA off,OS auto,Loader 10)(Control of dpad would be abnormal in the title screen,if you plugin Nexus 4MB memory card in dreamcast controller.)


EDIT:
I have noticed that my dreamcast seldom reboot when I play Kenju-Atomiswave with preset of 0x8ce00000,DMA off, SYNC 1-16,Os auto,Loader auto in retrodream..

I tested below preset in lastest dreamshell(retrodream doesn't supports address of 0x8cd000000) I select Shihua character and beating twice all of character in normal mode and I have no experience of any error of reboot or any freeze.

Kenju_Atomiswave

(0x8cd00000,DMA off, SYNC none,OS auto, Loader 14(iso loader 0.6.11 beta _noCDDA or other isoloader 0.6.11 beta))


Roommate Asami: Okusama ha Joshikousei - Director's Edition
(0x8ce00000, DMA off, OS auto, Loader 10)

this preset fix the problem of blackscreen of opening movie when You play it with Loader auto..

CHAOS FIELD
alternative preset.
(0x8cfe8000, DMA on, SYNC ture-16, Os auto, Loader 11)

Simple2000 Series DC Vol. 02 - Natsuiro Celebration - The Ren'ai Simulation
(0x8cfe8000, DMA on, SYNC ture,8, Os auto, Loader 11)

Simple2000 Series DC Vol. 04 - Okaeri! - The Ren'ai Adventure
(0x8cfe0000, DMA on, SYNC 8, Os auto, Loader 11)

Pia Carrot e Youkoso!! 3 ,My Merry Maybe v1.000
(0x8cfe8000, DMA on, SYNC 16, Os auto, Loader 11)

AeroWings 2 - Airstrike v1.001 (2000)(Crave)(US)[!]
this preset fix sudden freezing in any flight mission.
(IP.BIN(CUT),0x8ce00000, DMA off, OS auto, Loader 10,8)

Zero Gunner 2
(0x8c004000, DMA on, Sync True, OS auto, Loader 11)

EDIT2: I finally succeed to run Frist Kiss Story2 in retrodream..
(Direct,0x8CB00000,DMA on, SYNC 7, CDDA off, OS auto,Loader 11,14)

But It has three problem which has to be fix in the future..
First problem, It freezed frequently when I press continuously A or B or X or Y button in order to fast skip any character's dialogue So, It is impossible to fast skip any character's dialogue.
And Second Problem is serious.It freezed in particular FMV animation.
I upload my test of Frist Kiss Story2 to youtube
and I also upload savedata to dropbox which I transfered with Vmu manager in dreamshell. if you feel inclined,You can test this savedata which is the same savedata with below youtube video
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tygkfagki1avzm...ms.7z?dl=0






Third problem is very serious..
there is some point where display blackscreen after FMV animation and cannot make progress anymore..I think It definitely need some update for iso loader in order to continue gameplay.



if you are interested in this blackscreen symptom, You can test it by downloading below dropbox link and select slot 8 of save data of Frist Kiss Story2.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/69jnackn82hnv0...ms.7z?dl=0


EDIT2: I noticed that save file, which I have uploaded a few weeks ago, cannot be loaded from emulator.
So. I just have uploaded vmd save file to dropbox(I renamed it to vmu_save_A1.bin in order to be used in flycast emulator.)
In First Kiss Story2 save file, You can find that Slot 3 and slot 8 is problematic savedata which freezed in particular FMV animation and permanently display blackscreen after FMV animation.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2swjxeo7ylvfo...A1.7z?dl=0

[vincent]

(14.02.2021 14:33)dragoncity писал(а):  You use JAP console ?

JAP console is the worse for compatibility.

Need change region for "Europe" (Blue Swirl), you can put "Europe + NTSC" for keep NTSC :

https://dragoncity17.wordpress.com/2018/...anger-1-5/

After that all should work better.

The compatibility depends on the region?! So it's best to switch the region to "Europe" on the American and Japanese Dreamcast?!

And then there are no differences in compatibility compared to a PAL console?

[Elgor4uk]

(27.03.2025 15:16)vincent писал(а):  

(14.02.2021 14:33)dragoncity писал(а):  You use JAP console ?

JAP console is the worse for compatibility.

Need change region for "Europe" (Blue Swirl), you can put "Europe + NTSC" for keep NTSC :

https://dragoncity17.wordpress.com/2018/...anger-1-5/

After that all should work better.

The compatibility depends on the region?! So it's best to switch the region to "Europe" on the American and Japanese Dreamcast?!

And then there are no differences in compatibility compared to a PAL console?

1. У консоли региона NTSC-J совместимость лучше, чем консоль с регион PAL. По крайней мере при запуске игр через Dreamshell. Поэтому, перепрошивать регион с NTSC на PAL очень сомнительное решение, или даже плохое решение. Так как оранжевая спираль запустит все имеющиеся игры через Dreamshell.
2. И вероятнее всего, преимущество NTSC консоли не в прошивки региона, а в аппаратном исполнении, но это не точно.