NBA Showtime/NBA Hoopz! Why I do not hear commentator voice? CDDA function?

[Ro Magnus Larsson]

Hi: I am a NBA games fan, and all works good but in these two I noticed some time ago that the commentator voice does not hear in the games playing in Dreamshell. In my Raspberry Pi3 with emulator Reicast I can hear loudly commentator voice. Is some DS update that make all the sounds work? Or simply CDDA preset configuration?

[fafadou]

If it's not music it's probably due to loader and not cdda.

try 0.6.1_gcc_7.1 loader (as loader 3 in @Dragoncity list) else loader 0.7.x_b1, and finally 0.6.11_se if it's not a cdda game.

[Zychion]

Finally someone else has noticed. It is a CDDA game. The CDDA is the commentator. I've found a number of configs that get the commentator talking at the matchup screen but then he doesn't stop talking and the game never starts.

[kof888]

The cdda of this game is written in lba, if you modify the file structure, the cdda will not work properly

[Ro Magnus Larsson]

(07.01.2021 10:25)kof888 писал(а):  The cdda of this game is written in lba, if you modify the file structure, the cdda will not work properly

The IDE hard discs which have LBA are the 160Gb or more, is it anything about it ?

[kof888]

No, if you have the original unmodified gdi attached, the cdda should work normally, if it doesn’t work, you may need to wait for the ISO Loader to update.

[Ro Magnus Larsson]

(07.01.2021 13:58)kof888 писал(а):  No, if you have the original unmodified gdi attached, the cdda should work normally, if it doesn’t work, you may need to wait for the ISO Loader to update.

So you suggest to play a GDI with the bin files (not optimized)?

[kof888]

I’m not sure if the optimized mirror will change LBA, so I’m not sure

[megavolt85]

(10.01.2021 16:23)kof888 писал(а):  I’m not sure if the optimized mirror will change LBA, so I’m not sure

optimization does not change LBA, it removes unused 16 sync bytes and 288 bytes error correction (ECC/EDC)

[kof888]

Thanks for the reply, that's too simple

[Ro Magnus Larsson]

It is something about IDE HDDs ? I have IDEs and detected that some games like MSR or Resident Evil 2 does not work in IDE 80Gb (LBA 28+) but work in a more LBA HDD like a 160Gb one (LBA32+) . Any way in that cases DREAMSHELL show the message "ide LBA don't supported" but in NBA games does not show it

[Ro Magnus Larsson]

After trying in the two different file formats GDI not Opt/GDI Opt I can confirm that NBA Hoopz/Showtime's CDDA does not work

[pcwzrd13]

This is fixed in the new DreamShell 4.0 release.

http://www.dc-swat.ru/forum/thread-4069-lastpost.html

[chth96]

I tried to run NBA Hoopz (NA, Rev 2) and NBA Showtime - NBA on NBC (NA, Rev 1.003) in the lastest Dreamshell 4.0.
It is possible to run NBA Showtime - NBA on NBC (NA, Rev 1.003) with CDDA(it is possible to hear commentator voice),But It is totally not able to run NBA Hoopz (NA, Rev 2) with or without CDDA emulation.

[SWAT]

(25.02.2024 07:40)chth96 писал(а):  I tried to run NBA Hoopz (NA, Rev 2) and NBA Showtime - NBA on NBC (NA, Rev 1.003) in the lastest Dreamshell 4.0.
It is possible to run NBA Showtime - NBA on NBC (NA, Rev 1.003) with CDDA(it is possible to hear commentator voice),But It is totally not able to run NBA Hoopz (NA, Rev 2) with or without CDDA emulation.

Thanks for report. I see NBA Hoopz tried to read a full sector:

Код:

gdcReqCmd: 17 DMAREAD 56 0000b0a5 00000001 0c2bf5e0 00000000
gdcReqCmd: 17 DMAREAD 57 0007d73c 00000010 0c2f1f80 00000000
Opening file: /games/NBA_Hoopz/track05.iso
open: Created linkmap with 4 sequences
gdcReqCmd: 19 GETTOC2 58 00000001 8c00f1dc
Get TOC from GDI and prepare for session 2
gdcChangeDataType: GET: flags=2000 mode=800 full_size=2048 data_size=2048
gdcChangeDataType: SET: flags=1000 mode=200 full_size=2352 data_size=2352
gdcReqCmd: 17 DMAREAD 59 0001d031 00000096 0c7931e0 00000000

Try unoptimized image with .bin tracks.

[chth96]

(25.02.2024 09:20)SWAT писал(а):  Thanks for report. I see NBA Hoopz tried to read a full sector:

Код:

gdcReqCmd: 17 DMAREAD 56 0000b0a5 00000001 0c2bf5e0 00000000
gdcReqCmd: 17 DMAREAD 57 0007d73c 00000010 0c2f1f80 00000000
Opening file: /games/NBA_Hoopz/track05.iso
open: Created linkmap with 4 sequences
gdcReqCmd: 19 GETTOC2 58 00000001 8c00f1dc
Get TOC from GDI and prepare for session 2
gdcChangeDataType: GET: flags=2000 mode=800 full_size=2048 data_size=2048
gdcChangeDataType: SET: flags=1000 mode=200 full_size=2352 data_size=2352
gdcReqCmd: 17 DMAREAD 59 0001d031 00000096 0c7931e0 00000000

Try unoptimized image with .bin tracks.

Thank you very much for reply!
I tried unoptimized image(bin+raw) of NBA Hoopz (NA, Rev 2)
and It is able to run it in the DreamShell 4.0 release.
(DMA none, 0x8c001100,enable IRQ handling,CDDA,heap behind the loader,SQ,PIO,TMU2,Fixed)

But It freezed within 10 min at the longest during basketball match or freezed as soon as beginning of basketball match.

I changed address to 0x8c000100,0x8c004000,0x8c004800,0x8cfe8000,0x8cfe0000
and tried TMU1,Fixed or TMU2,adaptive,TMU1,adaptive, But it is not able to play NBA Hoopz (NA, Rev 2) without freezing.

[SWAT]

Looks like this game used software CDDA himself. It's trying to read RAW CDDA tracks as data to playback by software.
Need add support of reading audio tracks as data for the loader. It seems that now it only works due to an error in the file system. And this apparently doesn't work very well.

[chth96]

Thank you very much for reply.
It seems that it need to find infallible way to convert raw cdda track to data format by loader.
I think that this problem eventually will be solved like other problems which You have solved nicely.

[Ro Magnus Larsson]

(25.02.2024 16:27)SWAT писал(а):  Looks like this game used software CDDA himself. It's trying to read RAW CDDA tracks as data to playback by software.
Need add support of reading audio tracks as data for the loader. It seems that now it only works due to an error in the file system. And this apparently doesn't work very well.

Was it already solved in new DS release ?

[SWAT]

(12.04.2025 20:40)Ro Magnus Larsson писал(а):  

(25.02.2024 16:27)SWAT писал(а):  Looks like this game used software CDDA himself. It's trying to read RAW CDDA tracks as data to playback by software.
Need add support of reading audio tracks as data for the loader. It seems that now it only works due to an error in the file system. And this apparently doesn't work very well.

Was it already solved in new DS release ?

I haven't looked into this specifically, but you can try.